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bowler55

Posted 12:51 pm, 10/26/2017

I'm not judging. We're talking about what the Bible says. It also says divorce is committing viloence. It also says do not return evil with evil. It says to not commit adultery. It says to not covet. Those two are in the ten commandments. At what point is God doing this for the kids? It says in order for us to be forgiven we must forgive. It also says we must repent. I fail to see where getting a divorce is OK with God. I fail to see where letting feelings dictate what one does, when they go against what God says or wants us to do, is OK with God.

losers

Posted 11:26 am, 10/26/2017

It also says not to put his wife in danger no violence. It says not to slander . It also says not to judge.

bowler55

Posted 9:00 am, 10/26/2017

losers may I ask what you get out of that verse. As far as I have understood in any translation God doesn't want people to get divorced. Divorce goes against His design and the covenant between man and wife. He does want people to live through Him. Divorce is not living through God. Neither are some other things. He is the God of reconciliation. Not just with Him but between people. So God doesn't end marriages, He wants people to reconcile marriages.

ohmygoshreally

Posted 8:18 am, 10/26/2017

Your right you dont know what people do. If the flesh takes over then God is taken out of it. I have yet to read anywhere that says God would split up a family. He wants you to draw close to Him during trials so that you may stay closer when things are going good. Nowhere have I read that He ends marriages. That's why when couples put God first the marriages are saved and become stronger than ever. And the two will become one flesh so they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together let no one seperate. Might also look up what it says about free will. Along with forgiveness and repenting. Why would someone feel guilty if they are doing what God says to do. These are verses, comments and questions not a judgement.

losers

Posted 7:41 am, 10/26/2017

Like I said you read my post about like you read the Bible

ohmygoshreally

Posted 11:14 pm, 10/25/2017

It's pretty straight forward. If Bible verses makes someone feel guilty then there's a reason for that. I can post what the verse says myself if you'd like. God says what he says. Twist it how ever you want but it's still clear that He hates it and to not do it.

ohmygoshreally

Posted 11:01 pm, 10/25/2017

Malachi 2:15-16 read it. Talks about God's union between man and wife. Being unfaithful. Him hating divorce and what divorce does and says not to do it.

losers

Posted 9:24 pm, 10/25/2017

How would you know I've seen these type of relationships. None of us knows what happens under someone else's roof. We see them out and everything looks fine doesn't mean nothing until you go home with someone and live behind closed doors with them. I know the Bible say God hates divorce but read the whole verse not just the parts that benefit your fight or argument. There's more to that verse then God hates divorce. If you don't know the verse text me in private message and I'll post it on the thread for everyone to read. But I believe it would be more beneficial for you all to look it up. Like I said there's more to that verse then the parts you want to use against somebody for guilt or leverage.

ohmygoshreally

Posted 8:21 pm, 10/25/2017

losers how can you say maybe God done this for the kids. God doesn't do this to families. Read the Bible if you don't believe it. People don't know what happens unless they are there when it does. God does though. Maybe there has been an affair in the past. Given a past post, your comments seem to be one sided. Why is that? All marriages have problems. Grow up, there's kids involved and I'm pretty sure that with at least a couple of these marriages the kids were fine and didn't witness any physical abuse because there was none. If arguing is verbal abuse then maybe kids shouldn't leave there room or watch TV or anything else. I also would say that arguments in front of the kids were not the norm.

ohmygoshreally

Posted 7:35 pm, 10/25/2017

Boduke1966 I think the topic is still generally the same. Ethica, Morals and Professional code of conduct issues. These issues happen to revolve around affairs. People''s view points on both seem to be one in the same. Put God first and not yourself because your right He's not a spare tire. So many people treat Him as one though while acting as if they don't. I am a firm believer in working on a marriage as well. So yes, don't turn to God when you need Him while going against Him when you know better.

bowler55

Posted 7:23 pm, 10/25/2017

Usually when people put God first and their spouse second things work out great. They can't just pretend though and hope that people believe that they are or have tried. I know people that have been abused and their marriages are stronger than ever today. God doesn't end marriages. He hates divorce. So how can you say that maybe God done this. He's the God of reconciliation. Your right, you can't just pick out the pieces you like. You also shouldnt act like He''s good with it when knowing what He says about it. Most of what I've seen in marriages is miscommunication. Then it becomes they done this or they done that while acting like they've never done anything. Do unto others. So if one is doing something to someone and they return the actions, could one complain. That's something people don't think about when splitting up a family. The consequences of their actions. Again, is it better to create different problems and put your kids through something no kid deserves or is it better to work on the marriage?

losers

Posted 1:52 pm, 10/25/2017

You people get on here and act like these people have not tried to reconcile. Most of the time it takes two to make it work. You all don't know if they was domestic violence in some of these marriages do you think God put women or men here to be abused are treated bad. I don't believe God would want children having to see or hear any abuse verbal or physical. You people keep saying do it for the kids and God just maybe God done this for the KIDS!

Boduke1966

Posted 1:33 pm, 10/25/2017

I am a firm believer in God and doing the right thing, have been on both sides of the extra marital affair deal. Seen what it does to families. It hurts. But i also believe one has to want and ask God for help before getting it. God isn’t like a spare tire. You can’t just use Him When you need him. I really think this thread has been beat to death, and gotten off topic.

bowler55

Posted 12:06 pm, 10/25/2017

Social media is not the place for a lot of things. It does brings things to the attention of the community however. According to some of these posts there are ethicical, moral and professional code of conduct issues. It's sad they are related to affairs. I am a firm believer in working this out in marriages especually for the kids. Leaning on God as we should will overcome anything. God and the kids deserve it. Nobody's life is perfect. Stumbling isn't the problem it's if you repent, turn away from what your doing and do what God says. That's what matters to Him. I'm not telling any stories. If these issues exist then they need to be resolved. This might not have been the best way be it's here none the less. I do hope that every marriage will work out for the sake of God and the kids.

losers

Posted 10:01 am, 10/25/2017

All this tread has been about is someone mad because they didn't get what they thought they deserved. Never been about helping no one or encouraging no one it's all been about who has the next biggest "story"to tell. No one on here cares about anyone but their self. Look at the times they post looks like to me they need to get their hearts right instead of staying up all night worrying about someone else's life. Looks to me that their on lives are far from perfect

NoBS

Posted 9:02 am, 10/25/2017

Then why not go to them in person? And if you have been following this ridiculous thread the entire time then you would know that this has not all been about encouraging anyone. its been downright disgusting. I am all for families working things out-- but the issue is that social media is not the time nor place for any of this. People are saying "you need to turn to God"- yes I agree with that. I am a firm believer in the lord and am certainly not against anyone asking the lord for help in a time of need or despair or anytime for that matter. I have been against this thread since it started. my opinion is that none of this should have started, especially for the families. I believe there was a more professional way to handle this. what some of these people don't realize is that they have hurt many involved. I just don't understand why gossiping about it makes any of it better. I have asked the questions 3 times now "if you knew it was going on, why not go to the wives of those involved"? I will never be able to understand that. I am the type of person if I know something is going on behind your back I am going to tell you to your face. I am not going to hide behind a computer screen and spread hatred and rumors about you or your family. its pathetic how petty people can be.

bowler55

Posted 8:16 am, 10/25/2017

Not sure who started this. It seems like some of these people are encouraging the families to work things out especially for the kids. Do people forget about the husbands too.

NoBS

Posted 8:05 am, 10/25/2017

So let me ask you this... do you think that you all continuously bringing all of this up is helping the kids involved? heck I will go a step further and say "do you think its helping the wives involved"? No one care about the wives and kids involved when all this was brought to light, but yet here we are over a month later and people still want to talk about it. don't you think enough is enough? If anyone cared about the families involved things would have and could have been handled much differently.

bowler55

Posted 12:46 am, 10/25/2017

I know marriages struggle. People get mad, unhappy, do things with other people, feel like they don't love the other and even take their kids and leave. Do they not think about the fact that they still have to deal with them at least until the kids turn 18. Is it better to create a totally different set of problems with someone that just got treated a certain way or work it out? Anytime kids are involved and feelings get hurt then it usually goes bad from then on. I've seen it to many times. I would think that whatever it took to work it out would benefit everyone more. Especially the kids.

filafel

Posted 11:26 pm, 10/24/2017

What I meant was, free will wasn't given with the intention of being used to go against God. Mrs. Lonely's post sums that up.

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