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10 dead in Oregon community college shooting

Elmo Cleghorn

Posted 10:39 am, 10/02/2015

snapshot (view profile)

while i'm not the poster that you are waiting an answer for , let me say this. yes a firearm had a role in this tragedy. however that firearm had to have someone, something behind it to pull the trigger, manipulate it. if you took a 50 caliber machine gun and it loaded and put it in the middle of 421 or wherever , and left it there, what are the chances of it going off by itself?

let's say you take a 50 caliber machine gun and set it up on ridge overlooking a school and you put someone in charge of making sure that machine gun stays in place. all the person has to do is just make sure the gun stays there.

do you pick a person with mental health/rage issues or do you pick a sane moderately tempered mature person?

snapshot

Posted 10:35 am, 10/02/2015

while i'm not the poster that you are waiting an answer for , let me say this. yes a firearm had a role in this tragedy. however that firearm had to have someone, something behind it to pull the trigger, manipulate it. if you took a 50 caliber machine gun and it loaded and put it in the middle of 421 or wherever , and left it there, what are the chances of it going off by itself?

just-in-case

Posted 10:32 am, 10/02/2015

Gallup poll found that 46 percent of men own a gun in America, as opposed to 23 percent of women.)

Truthseeker911

Posted 10:32 am, 10/02/2015

For empowers:

This campus was NOT a gun free zone. There were other students that were carrying.

http://thinkprogress.org/ju...-massacre/

shouldawouldacoulda

Posted 10:29 am, 10/02/2015

I'm confused, too. Are you saying guns had no role in these tragedies?

Note from GoNC: a portion of this post was removed for trolling.

Truthseeker911

Posted 10:27 am, 10/02/2015

School shootings have been going on since 1764.

just-in-case

Posted 10:27 am, 10/02/2015

According to research, these revenge mass murderers tend to have been bullied or socially excluded as children. As adults, they tend to be highly sensitive to any slight or rejection and to spend time dwelling on past humiliations. Given the right circumstances, these obsessive thoughts turn into violent revenge fantasies to protect a fragile � sometimes overly inflated � ego. In fact, it is when the perpetrator is feeling most powerless that he is likely to justify acting on his fantasies and begin the transition from obsessive thought to devastating action. The meticulous plans he make not only distract him from a reality that he finds increasingly intolerable, they give him a false sense of power and omnipotence.


So it could be that mass murderers are overwhelmingly male simply because we give more mental health attention to women who are "loners," "eccentric" or "bizarre." It's easy to say we're "ignoring the warning signs" in these male mass murderers, but the truth may be that as a culture we're simply less tolerant to women outside the norm of acceptable behavior, and we don't see men as "needing" help.

mommotwo

Posted 10:26 am, 10/02/2015

America will continue to turn a blind eye toward the role of guns in these tragedies

Guns have been legal in America for how long? School shootings are more of a recent kinda thing, right? So, I'm not really making the connection.....

shouldawouldacoulda

Posted 10:18 am, 10/02/2015

Good find, Truth.

We need to start here. America will continue to turn a blind eye toward the role of guns in these tragedies, so we probably need to focus our energy on dealing with the problem of males deciding their only logical recourse is perpetrating mass murder.

Truthseeker911

Posted 10:16 am, 10/02/2015

Shoulda, I found this....

"Some research supports the idea that males are more likely than females to develop negative attributions of blame that are external in nature, that is: �The cause � of my problems is someone else or some force outside of me'. And this translates into anger and hostility toward others."
[Women], on the other hand, "are more likely to develop negative attributions of blame that are internal in nature, that is: �The cause of my problems is some failing of my own: I didn't try hard enough, I'm not good enough."

http://time.com/114128/elli...a-shooter/

GoNC

Posted 10:15 am, 10/02/2015

I removed several posts that were off topic and/or trolling.

redfly

Posted 10:11 am, 10/02/2015

Actually that is a Good Question !!!

Do tell us.

shouldawouldacoulda

Posted 10:08 am, 10/02/2015

Sigh.

I'll ask again, my conservative brothers.

Why are men mass murders, and not women?

GoNC

Posted 10:07 am, 10/02/2015

I removed several posts that were off topic and/or trolling.

hangsleft

Posted 10:02 am, 10/02/2015

Martyr time.

redfly

Posted 10:01 am, 10/02/2015

SWC,, we are talking about Oregon, not the Middle East, so quit trying to take the Thread off Course !!!

shouldawouldacoulda

Posted 10:00 am, 10/02/2015

mommotwo (view profile)
Posted 9:46 am, 10/02/2015
It was said that he did target Christians. Not surprising. There's a lot of hatred out there for Christians. We do see a lot of it on here.

We see hatred towards a lot of people on here. Daily. The website is rife with examples.

hangsleft

Posted 9:56 am, 10/02/2015

The targeting of Christians has not been confirmed. That came from 1 victims dad and not from an official source.

shouldawouldacoulda

Posted 9:56 am, 10/02/2015

Good morning, Blowfly.

Innocent people, regardless of race or religion, should not be gunned down so callously in a civilized nation, and that includes police officers simply doing their job. Tragic.

Nor should we make light of any tragedy that afflicts a people, across the world, in our day and age.

Like when you made fun of the crane tragedy that killed Muslims.

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